Sonic Youth – Closing Thoughts

As AIR stumbles over the finish line, cloak us with a foil blanket as we share what we’ve learned this month:

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CHRIS

Let’s imagine that in the early 1980s Kim and Thurston had never met, no eyes had passed over flip sunglasses, or a love for the more arty side of life. Lee had never met these two, and then Steve Shelley – then of the Crucifucks –had forever remained part of the punk scene? Would things have been any different?

For some of my esteemed fellow bloggers, their lives may have remained slightly less tortured. They wouldn’t have had to labour – and sometimes scream – through hours of screech, feedback and some vocals that are massively open to subjective interpretation. It has been a slog, I know. Jamie nearly left us, emotions were rife and arguments boiled under the surface about the merits of Kim Gordon’s vocals. Without this month, we would never have seen the many ways in which Jamie can interpret his disdain for Sonic Youth, and, at times, music in general.

Readers, this blog may also never have existed?

But, without a shadow of a doubt, without this band forming, the main implication would have been – in my eyes – a different alt-rock (if not musical) landscape. Whilst not always one hundred percent successful, Sonic Youth opened the doors to some different ways of looking at rock music – who would have thought an album like Dirty, which includes some sheer shite noise and sound chaos, could set the charts alight? And could have become a staple signifier of a sound and generation? Would we have Nirvana? As mentioned previously, Sonic Youth were massive champions for getting them on Geffen, which would eventually lead to their world dominating status.

Yes, it can be argued that if they hadn’t, someone else would have. But they didn’t, and Sonic Youth did. They showed you could rock, and think. Rock music didn’t have to be all about posturing and bravado, but they showed experimentation and ‘weird’ could be done on a massive, popular platform.

I previously mentioned that I had listened to all their albums in order before. Last time I did it much quicker, though. Maybe a couple of weeks. But, that time I didn’t give myself the chance to reflect like we have here. This time has been a lot more rewarding.

It has been an interesting month – I have particularly enjoyed seeing others responses to them, even the anger and hatred. Sonic Youth are a band I have always had on an unreachable pedestal. I couldn’t comprehend why people wouldn’t be in love with them? Why would people not bask in the sound of thirty minutes of feedback? How can a man hitting a guitar with a stick not be the most musically emancipatory thing you have ever heard?

I should quickly say that I still hold the above opinions; BUT, I can see chinks in the armour. Whilst I might still love it myself, it has been really interesting to see the challenges people have with them, the points at which it can all be a bit too much. I have enjoyed some albums more than I used to (Confusion is Sex, A Thousand Leaves) and some have been taken down from the hallowed heights (Dirty, Goo). Only slightly, mind.

It has been eye opening to see the way in which the music nodded to in their albums – particularly the more experimental – is now reflect in what I enjoy listening to now.

Some of the members of the blog didn’t know each other before the start of this month, a number of us still have yet to meet in the flesh. But, now, when we do meet we have much to discuss: I will be adamantly defending Kim Gordon, and Rory will converse purely in Post-Its attached to his forehead.

If Sonic Youth never met, this may never have happened. Sonic Youth brought us together. And, if for nothing else, is that not a good enough reason to be happy that the band met?

I can’t wait for next month.

ROB

Looking back, the first thing that really struck me about the whole thing was to think that we’ve essentially covered a new album every two days. More remarkably, I think we’ve all lived to tell the tale – although it was touch and go for a while.

At times it has felt like the longest month, at others it’s flown by as the albums come in thick and fast and you don’t really get chance to appreciate all of the nuances. I’m definitely looking forward to a more sedate pace next time…

Like Sonic Youth, it’s been a month of monumental highs and cavernous lows. I honestly don’t know how a band can elicit such moments of joy alongside moments where you want to lock them in a tiny room and throw away the key. Perhaps the biggest surprise is how much I enjoyed some of the less-heralded records. Sonic Nurse and Washing Machine in particular were both exceptional – yet never get talked about in the same breath as Goo or Dirty or Daydream Nation.

It hasn’t all been glorious sunshine. Kim Gordon frequently infuriates, and I can imagine her being a forceful character in the studio (which would account for the rather slack quality control when it comes to her songs). To be fair though, when she pulled it out of the bag on Rather Ripped, she excelled. It doesn’t mean 25 years worth of annoyance is worth it, but it felt like a small, well-won, win.

Then there’s what I call the self-sabotage of more accessible songs, either by drawing them out for far longer than necessary or by collapsing into sonic dissonance. They don’t make it easy to like a lot of their output, and some times it feels quite deliberate – like they’re testing the listener.

Of course, you don’t achieve iconic status by playing to the choir and it does mean there’s this free-wheeling, fuck you charm about a lot of what Sonic Youth does. They don’t care if you like them. Which is handy, as at least 50% of the Artist In Residence crew, probably detest them. Me? I enjoyed it – I’m just glad I don’t need to do another 15 albums next month…

MARTIN

I know this was a mammoth task. 15 albums in a month from hardly one of the most immediate bands to have existed. I expected that a lot of the albums would be hard going for people who’d never heard Sonic Youth before. I don’t mean that in a patronising way. Some of their albums were hard going for a big fan. Personally, I’ve enjoyed revisiting all the albums. It’s given me a renewed appreciation of the band and made me juggle my order of favourites around a bit.

While it has cemented me as a fan, over the course of all 15 albums I can agree that there is some absolute rubbish on there. On the whole though I like about 75 percent of all the recorded material to some degree. I have been interested to see what people who were new to the band made of it all. Most of the ones I expected to be hated were, but there’s been some surprises. Albums that I thought would be convincers that there was merit to the band, were sometimes still hated!

I do think they are a band who may be particularly unsuited to the format of banging through an album every couple of days. I can imagine that to be quite an exhausting experience for first time listeners.

Overall though, I still love them. Kim Gordon too. I do think it’s a terrible shame they ended the way they did. Us 90s indie kids thought it was Thurston and Kim Forever.

The legacy of the band will live on though, and like the song says,”There may be troubles ahead, but while there’s moonlight, weird tunings, screwdrivers and guitars, let’s make some music and divide the music listening world bang down the middle.”

MICKEY

I have a personal theory that we never truly love a song until we are able to subconsciously associate it with a fond or at least nostalgic memory. In truth, this is complete bollocks and I don’t know why I am saying this. This band has driven me over the edge!

Lets do the mathematics: If I had to give a percentage of how much of this band’s output I actually enjoyed I would say approximately 10%. If I had to give a percentage of how much of this band’s output I was able to tolerate I would say approximately 40%. I think the above speaks for itself and gives a clear indication of the sort of month I have had.

Lets ask myself some questions:

The hardest part of this month?

A: Discovering I didn’t love this band like I imagined I would.

The easiest part of this month?

A: Listening to Rather Ripped.

The best part of this month?

A: Chatting with the rest of the guys in the AIR music club. Sharing the ups and downs.

The worst part of this month?

A: Listening to Confusion is Sex and realising that this was going to be a long month.

Lets make a list of the albums I liked:

Dirty
NYC, Ghosts and Flowers
Sonic Nurse
Rather Ripped.

Lets make a list of the albums I didn’t:

I don’t have time. For the record I never disliked whole albums. There were always elements of each album that I enjoyed.

It’s probably unfair to judge an album after one listen. I am pretty sure given more listens I could have grown fonder of their music, especially their earlier stuff. But, then again I was very impressed with Rather Ripped after just one listen, so maybe I am not missing out on too much really.

Next month will see fewer albums, which hopefully will mean more listens.

Bring on May!

LUKE

So. Was it all worth it in the end?

I look back on my opening comments, and it seems I would’ve been happy with more songs that would stick with me as long as Antenna has. I’ve no doubt that there are some, roughly 12-15 or so, that I will return to time and again. That, mathematics fans, equates to roughly one song per album.

Regardless of whether that represents good value for my time, any band that produces a hat-trick of consecutive albums like Daydream Nation, Goo and Dirty deserves some respect. That’s to say nothing of the final run of albums – Rather Ripped in particular – which offered some gentle persuasion right at the last that perhaps it wasn’t as bad as it may have seemed.

It became a real challenge at the end of the month, as the albums came thick and fast. At times it felt impossible to parse through the different sounds on particular albums as we just didn’t have enough time to savour them. We bit off more than we could chew, but it was still a worthwhile experience, in the same way you might feel both pain and accomplishment after running a marathon, or seeing how many times you could masturbate in one day.

I like to think it’s bought us all closer too. At times it seemed all we had to sustain our belief in humanity was the thought that we were all in it together. We laughed, we cried, we argued, we loved each other passionately in a variety of mind-bending ways.

Regardless of what I feel now, I know that whenever I sit down to a Sonic Youth record in the future, I’ll look back on this month with a fondness that has been missing from much of my music listening as of late. This is why we established this rag-tag club in the first place. So, based on that criteria, I would have to say this was a mission accomplished.

JAMIE

I’m not going to lie, this month has been very testing for me. There were one or two times when I thought of calling it a day.

Before we began I knew one or two of their songs. I was hearing their albums for the first time. This was of course very different for other people in the group who knew the band very well. My opinion is that these individuals may have found it impossible to be impartial as the band had been nostalgically interwoven into their musical tastes with certain albums closely linked to growing up. I understand this. I would struggle to be impartial if I was blogging about Radiohead or Idlewild for instance.

My opinion is simple. I don’t think they are very good. I think they have moments of brilliance widely scattered over their back catalogue, but as a collection of albums as a whole, they are not a great band. For me, the average moments, the downright terrible moments and the unfathomably pointless moments largely outweigh the positive.

Despite this, I’m glad I’ve done it. I can only hope that in the future I get into a conversation with an avid Sonic Youth fan. Hopefully they’d say something like “I bet you’ve only heard Dirty or Daydream Nation.”

I can then say (almost like a ‘nam vet) “Listen Pal, you don’t know what I’ve been through” and can tell them all about my plight. At length.

*washes hands of Sonic Youth forever*

*with bleach*

RORY

This has been a taxing experience.

There were a couple of moments when I felt the whole thing might pay off, but it never quite happened. I also never seemed to enjoy the pivotal moments the rest of the gang (obviously Jamie notwithstanding) did. Dirty felt average, Sonic Nurse was audio haemorrhoids.

For me the most exciting part of the month was NYC Ghosts & Flowers. I clicked with this album, it felt huge and daring. As Sinead O’Connor would say ‘nothing compared…nothing compared…to this’.

I’m quite surprised this band is held in such high regard. The songs aren’t there, the music isn’t either. I get there’s a level of historical importance, but I can’t shake the feeling that they are a footnote in music rather than a page (yes I’m not sure that this works as a sentence either, but I’m more than happy to give it a whirl).

As an experience this has been fun, admittedly booze has got in the way of being a fully functioning member of Artist in Residence. I’m three reviews shy of a complete package, but feel free to tweet me for the reviews of those albums. I am more than happy to make something up on the spot.

Sonic Youth, it’s been a shitter. Still maybe we’ll bump into each other at a wedding sometime and we can laugh about how you wasted my time.

Washing Machine (1995)

Washing Machine

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JAMIE

The first thing I do now when I start listening to a new Sonic Youth album is check how many songs are on it. I always fear that there will be 18 seven minutes songs of shite to wade through. Thankfully, Washing Machine contains 11 tracks, and a few of them are up there with my favourite songs by the band so far.

Firstly the name. I don’t get it. Maybe one of the other guys can fill me in. Perhaps the deadline to go to print was fast approaching and Thurston was procrastinating, sprawled out on his couch watching Seinfeld, eating pistachio nuts and there was a loud ratatat on the door.

Standing in the doorway was a visibly irate David Geffen demanding to know the album’s title. A panicked Moore glanced towards his utility room and replied “Emm…. Tumble dryer, no wait. Washing Machine.”

My favourite tracks are Unwind, Little Trouble Girl, Becuz Coda and The Diamond Sea. No Queen Blues made me burst out laughing on the train as it sounds like Carlos Santana guested on it after downing a pint of tequila. Still gives me a chuckle.

So, 11 tracks and I really like 4. Not a terrible return.

ROB

After the snoozefest of ‘Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star’, I was fully expecting Sonic Youth to be on a slow, terminal decline. But, as you’d perhaps expect from a band that defies conventions and norms, not only is ‘Washing Machine’ a marked improvement on its predecessor, it’s probably my favourite Sonic Youth album to date! Maybe Scott Bakula’s back in the saddle for this one…

Anyway, I think I can best sum up my thoughts by saying that the good songs are some of the best they’ve written – ‘Becuz’, ‘Unwind’, ‘No Queen Blues’ and the first 15 minutes of ‘The Diamond Sea’ would all comfortably sit in my top 10 Sonic Youth songs – and the bad songs aren’t as terrible as some of their other awful songs. That said I have little time for either of ‘Little Trouble Girl’ or ‘Panty Lies’. Sometimes I wonder what sort of power Kim Gordon had over Thurston Moore to get let into the band, and these two songs are prime examples…

But, on the whole, ‘Washing Machine’ is actually really fucking good.

LUKE

At this point I really don’t know what to expect. I was surprised that Experimental… was so warmly received by the group, so this album represents the most intriguing point of the month so far.

Becuz swirls along, slowly biding it’s time, building gradually to a climax that…never comes. It just plods along, settling in to a dull riff at a point when it feels that something bigger and louder should emerge. It takes 2 minutes and 20 seconds for Junkie’s Promise to get exciting, as the vocals drop and the music swells, providing the sort of catharsis that Becuz could only tease.

I’m tired of hearing Kim Gordon’s repeated boasts of buying her honey a soda pop, so check to see how much of the title track is left. It’s 9 minutes and 34 seconds long and I have seven whole minutes left. Things slightly improve for the remainder, as things stop being irritating and become simply boring instead.

I find I’ve been complaining more and more about Kim Gordon as we’ve progressed. Little Trouble Girl does nothing to stem the tide. It doesn’t even sound like a Sonic Youth song, never mind a bad Sonic Youth song. It’s something Quentin Tarantino might use post-ironically to score a scene featuring a teenage girl stabbing her abusive father in an act of revenge.

The last minute of No Queen Blues is the best part. The metallic drumming and the guitar sounds would be much more exciting if they were introducing the start of a song, rather than playing one out though.

Lee Ranaldo pops up on Skip Tracer to cheerily say “Hellooooo, 2015!” Hello, Lee. Have you been on holiday? You look great! Some people are writing a blog about your band and are having an indifferent time of it. More choons plz. Yours, 2015.

My plea immediately falls on deaf ears. The Diamond Sea is nearly 20 minutes long. About half way through it sounds great, as we’re left guessing which direction it’s going in. It’s an ominous post-rock sound; things could get aggressive, or something gentler. There’s a tension in the moment, before it eventually subsides and meanders to an unsatisfactory conclusion, a drowsy hand-job of a song.

CHRIS

I have always had ‘Washing Machine’ down as one of my favourite Sonic Youth albums. I remember on my first listen it feeling a bit all over the place, though. There were so many different styles and ideas flying around, a bit like ‘Experimental…’. But, after a few listens I really started to enjoy it. A lot. I was particularly happy that there was a lot more Lee Ranaldo songs. He always feels massively underused. A bit like Sister, Washing Machine is a bit of a temple for a sound and approach that the band would continue for a few hours. For me, the styles and sounds are organised as follows:

Confusion is Sex – Evol
Sister – Experimental
Washing Machine – Murray Street
Sonic Nurse – The Eternal

The Washing Machine era is when, for me, that really tap into ‘The Beats’ thing and the experimental music of the 60s and 70s – John Cage, Philip Glass, Velvet Underground, Yoko Ono, etc. – that has always been in the background. And they do it very well. This is the beginning of the Sonic Youth period that I get the best feeling from. I love the really luscious guitar sounds, and more jam centred song structures that are being foregrounded – this would be really cemented later on Murray Street. It is also interesting this is the point at which the experimental SYR albums would start. These albums – which made it all the way up to 9 – would be the much more ‘out there’ difficult stuff that wouldn’t end up on the albums. Some is good, some is very hard going.

I can see the track ‘Washing Machine’ being very divisive; mainly the vocals. This blog has included a number of comments about Kim’s voice, and I don’t think this song will help that. This is one of my favourite Sonic Youth tracks, though. I just love the groove and the smooth, laid back storytelling of Kim. This is a driving song. I think this is a band getting it right in terms of bringing in the more arty side, but not losing the song. You can imagine this in a 70s club, the room smoky, and dense with the smell of liquor. Then four minutes in, the singer turns away and lets the groove kick in. A Krautrock beat emerges and then descends into swirling noise before reducing back into a slow crackling vinyl sound. Wonderful. The soda pop part really reminds me of Charles Bukowski, or, probably more directly, the recent Paul Thomas Anderson film of ‘Inherent Vice’ by Thomas Pynchon. It has a real neon, kitsch feel. I’d love to see this live.

Unwind and Little Trouble Girl both have real fairy tale vice to them. They sound like songs to lull you to sleep. They also sound great together. Is this really the band that created the aural chaos of Confusion is Sex? These songs are shimmering with pop. Little Trouble Girl could have been on ‘Velvet Underground and Nico’ no problem. Like ‘Washing Machine’, the almost spoken style really suits Kim. And it is great to hear those Kim Deal harmonies.

No Queen Blues is an odd track. I like the skronk, but there is something a bit unfocused about it. That chorus is awesome, though. Kim brings back those vocals on ‘Panty Lines’. Again, some really great bits surrounded by some off cuts. I do really like that chiming guitar, though.

The album ends with two of my favourite Sonic Youth tracks. Skip Tracer has the ultimate Lee Ranaldo lyrics. Confusing, hallucinatory, but strangely coherent. The lyrics are delivered like a man on a street corner; the man who can see a future you haven’t seen yet. This might also be one of my favourite lyrics of all time:

“The girl started out in red patent leather
Very I’m in a band with knee pads
We watch her fall over and lay down,
Shouting the poetic truths of high school journal keepers”

And then Diamond Sea. This is the kind of song that could go on all day, and probably should. This is a band locked in. By this time the band had been hanging around with Neil Young a lot, and this does feel like their version of ‘Cortez the Killer’. The messy, incoherent band of the first few albums has disappeared, and here we have no missed notes. Everything makes sense.

(For those who don’t know, this is the song that Radish (Ben Kweller’s first band) is accused of copying on ‘Dear Aunt Arctic’. It is amazing how they used the verse of a twenty minute sprawling song on a pop-rock single). There is a lot going on and their future sound is being put in place. Because, of this, I think Washing Machine was, and still is, in my top three Sonic Youth albums.

MICKEY

I liked the last two songs. The rest was ok. Just ok.

MARTIN

It took me a while to get this album. I didn’t buy it when it was released as I was still stung by the non-Dirtyness of Experimental Jet Set.

In August 1996 I went to Reading Festival. It was my first music festival and I was like a wide eyed little deer, giddy at the prospect of so much live music over a weekend. Sonic Youth were playing just under headliners The Stone Roses on the Sunday. That’s sure to be ace, I thought. I’d seen footage from this very festival in 1991 on The Year Punk Broke and it rocked my face off. They’re bound to play loads off Dirty, I thought.

Wrong! They played Sugar Kane. That was it. Via the magic of the internet I can see the exact setlist they played. The first 4 songs were Eric’s Trip, Sugar Kane, Bull in the Heather and Starfield Road. They then played 5 songs from Washing Machine with Skink from EJS,T&NS thrown in. I hadn’t heard a single track from Washing Machine. The last song they played was the 20 minute album closer The Diamond Sea. Imagine how much of an effort it was to get through that set. I stuck it out hoping to hear some songs I knew but it was fruitless. My friend Keith, halfway into the set, shortly before he sunk to the ground to lay down said, “I dont know how they had the cheek to turn up”.

The weird thing is, I’d really enjoy seeing that set live now. Now that I know and like the album and have listened to it many times over the years. I can’t remember when I first listened to it properly. But I think it must have been during my second year of university where as I’ve mentioned before I had a Sonic Youth obsessed course mate.

It’s not much different in feel to Exerimental Jet Set really. Apart from the songs seem more fully realised, and Ranaldo brings a couple. Also, Kim Gordon plays third guitar on most of this album rather than bass.

I like all the songs on Washing Machine apart from three. The title track is one of those songs that I feel people would only allow Sonic Youth to get away with. The guitars sound like a bad teenage band who don’t know how to use a tuner. If you saw anyone else playing it in a local venue, you would cringe and think maybe they need a few more months in the practice room. Then there’s Panty Lies. One of the worst examples of Kim self indulgence-ence-ence-ence-ence-unggh-unghh-unghh-shit. The other nugget of craparama is No Queen Blues. A further example of alternately tuned sounding like badly tuned, combined with Thurston basically messing about and yelping like a mardy Jack Russell.

8 good songs out of 11 is not bad going though. Junkie’s Promise is one of my favourites. I like the foreboding sound of the guitars combined with Thurston’s voice. Skip Tracer really suits the spoken word style that Lee does on it, and Unwind is a dreamy little lullaby with some ace guitar interplay. The Diamond Sea is probably the best song on the album. Incredible really when you look at the track length. When it’s on though, I don’t really notice that it goes on for nearly 20 minutes. It holds my attention all the way.

I think that this album works better after a few listens (which is not really possible when you’ve got 15 albums to get through in a month!) and the fact that I’ve had chance to do that over time has put this album in my top 5 Sonic Youth records. If I could go back to that field in Reading in 1996, I’d tell my 18 year old self to go get this album from the cd tent and stop being so hung up on Dirty.

It’s about to go back to being difficult for the next couple of albums though.

RORY

As I sit down to review the 803rd Sonic Youth album ‘Washing Machine’ I have the overriding urge to hurt my hands.

I down a hot toddy and pick up a hammer I keep at my desk. The weight of my desk hammer feels good. I bring the full force of the hammer down on my left hand. The pain is excruciating. I then realise that holding a hammer with my now crippled left hand to maim the right will be impossible. I have failed again.

I awake in a hospital bed. A young nurse called ‘Roger’ stands above me.

“How are you feeling?”

“Not great”

“Why did you hammer yourself friend?”

“Come close”

Roger is sceptical, but decides to gently ease forward. I put an ipod earphone in his left ear. I play him the album Washing Machine in full. For some reason he stays for the whole thing, therefore neglecting a lot of other patients. I start to doubt Roger is a nurse. He is dressed in a tracksuit top and a fedora. I find myself struggling to remember how NHS nurses dress. Roger hands me back the earphone.

“Friend. It isn’t great, but I like the first three tracks. Well maybe not the second one so much”

“Thanks Roger.”

“No problem.”

Roger leaves and I fall back asleep.